Wow…Some People’s Children…

So, over at United Hollywood, some person posts this:

nothing warms the hearts of the american viewing public like watching a bunch of arrogant millionaires complain that they’re not being paid enough for working 1/2 of the year in the cushiest working conditions available. good luck in your efforts to kill the goose that lays golden eggs.

–non-millionaire living in a fly-over state

Huh.  It doesn’t matter how much you point out that much of Hollywood is, in fact, not rich.  Some folks still cling to their stupid biases against Hollywood.  Probably is a fan of Michelle Malkin and Fox News.  Seriously, most people in Hollywood?  Not rich.  There are a few actors who make millions.  Most actors work more than two jobs to keep a roof over their heads.  Some have regular TV gigs that probably keep them in a home, but hardly living outrageously.  The same goes for directors and on down the line.  The richest people in Hollywood are pretty much the people the writers are fighting.  Producers.

Few writers are millionaires.  I feel like I have said that enough, but clearly there are people out there that are not bright enough to get it the first time (thankfully, the comments here have not shown such blasted ignorance).  As a non-millionaire in a flyover state (wait…is MN a flyover state?) who is not a member of the WGA, I am stunned by the opposition…especially the excuses offered:

 With the substance and quality of most of what comes from this country’s entertainment industry on a daily basis, I for one hope that the writers strike remains permanent.

Have a nice day Hollywood.


I’m sure joe public would be happy to fork it over for quality writing – like there is on shows like “till death”. Face it. Lots of people with REAL and important jobs don’t get paid enough, and they resent you blow-dried hollywood types for not knowing how good you have it. What makes you so special?

Is there crap out there?  Sure.  But it is not like the striking members are the ones that wrote only the shows and films considered “crap.”  This is everybody, including the good shows.  Of course, usually the people complaining about how there is nothing good on TV or in theaters are right wingers or highly religious people complaining that nothing panders to them.  And they tend to praise absolute crap themselves.  And truthfully, one man’s crap is another man’s gold in the entertainment world.   Example?

Office shut down for good?

Whew! About time somebody took that crapfest off the air.

Seriously?  The Office is kind of slumped this season, but it is still entertaining.  Probably could be one of the best written shows of that couple of years.   Obviously, people are welcome to their opinions.  But when you base your opinion in the wrong facts (such as “writers are millionaires”) you just look like a dunce.

8 thoughts on “Wow…Some People’s Children… Leave a comment

  1. I’m reminded of the teacher bashing I heard on the radio today :\

    Whenever nebody goes on strike (or in this case not even going on strike, I dunno why they were complaining about them), ppl talk about how lucky and great their jobs are and how regular ppl are so miserable with crappy jobs. :\

    It’s rly awful how everybody has absolutely no sympathy or understanding for other ppl or their professions (except for the military, not even cops get away with it with ppl complaining about how lazy they are). :\

    Everybody is lazy and crappy except you, who is hard working and smart but underpaid and underappreciated. XD

  2. It’s like that Doobie Brothers song:

    “What a fool believes he sees,
    No wise man has the power to reason away.”

  3. Jealousy is an ugly thing.

    Fact is, all of the complainers think that *they* should be the ones writing the TV shows, or acting in them.

    They could have tried. They could have labored unappreciated and uncompensated for years in the hope of a payoff that might never come.

    But they didn’t, even though they might have wanted to. They chose security over following their dream, and resent anyone who chose otherwise.

  4. Actually, when UPS workers went on strike several years back, I remember a conservative commentator at one of the radio stations in my area bashing them. There is a certain mentality that believes if you have a job — any job — then you should be happy with what you’re getting.

    It’s a mentality I do not share, because in a capitalist society I believe those who create value can and should demand all they’re worth. If going on strike is what it takes, then so be it.

    I think the backlash against the WGA strike is certainly magnified by some people’s envy of creative types, though. There are those who fail to understand that creating a unique work of art that generates revenue over a period of years or even decades is different than, say, delivering packages for UPS. I’m not saying one is better than the other — they’re just different. If a script one has written continues to generate revenue, one is entitled to a cut of that continued revenue.

    It’s amazing how boorishly the studios are acting. The writer’s demands are relatively modest: increasing residuals from 2% to 4% of gross revenue, and extending residuals to “new media” such as the Internet, which represents an incredibly low-cost way for studios to make money as it eliminates expenses of physical media such as warehousing and shipping.

    And yeah, most writers aren’t bathing in gold coins like Scrooge McDuck. They enjoy less job security than most of us, and long periods of unemployment is par for the course for many of them. Without residuals, they’d have to abandon writing and get other jobs just to keep a roof over their heads.

  5. THOM – sorry, but accept this second version, b/c I screwed up the links on the first version? Thanks! Tim 🙂

    Thom, what do you expect? These are the older brothers (or fathers or uncles) of the same right-wing belligerent comics (or Gorean) Fanboyz who keep trying to bully Ami, or Karen or Ragnell or Kalinara or Tammy, to shut up and let them wank off to their arrested adolescent fantasies. (Yeah, RMM, MTS and James Meeley – I’m looking RIGHT at you clowns!)

    Whenever my relatives go on the “rich Hollywood libburul” toot, I think about the twenty years Tammy and I lived in residential hotel rooms with peeling paint and boilers which didn’t work half the time in winter b/c the landlady was too cheap to scrap the old one. I think of the two decades of jobs as a temp clerk-typist I took while working acting, writing and directing gigs for no money, or paying money to do(!), “to build my resume”. I think of writer friends of ours like Josepha Sherman and William H. Keith, Jr. who write eight-twelve books a year, and STILL work as editors or writing teachers to make ends meet. I think of the hundreds of aspiring actors, writers and filmmakers I’ve known, myself included, and that the only one who’s “made it” in Hollywood (and a tenuous “making it” it is, too!) is Glen Morgan who I went to high school with – and who last did some work on THE BIONIC WOMAN reboot, but didn’t last long there. And I remember that these are the same Fauz Noize-watching sheeple who hate on Michael Moore, despite the fact all this movies have been about highlighting issues that concern them – and I wonder every last damned one of them doesn’t deserve Simon Cowell sneering down at them on a nightly basis like the eliteist tool he is….

    The most interesting take I heard about the Writers’s Guild of America (WGA) strike came from Alex Lindsay’s latest THIS WEEK IN MEDIA podcast. Lindsay, who’s built on having done the CGI for the Pod race in THE PHANTOM MENACE with nothing but a lot of Mac personal computers(!) and now does a lot of high-end niche-market video production, is of the opinion that the longer the writer’s strike lasts, the better it is for independent media producers like himself – Because They’re Not WGA or Craft Union Signatories. The WGA officially stated that any union writer who crosses the picket line to write for a WGA signatory (which is most programs currently on television) would be canned from the union, and nonunion writers wouldn’t ever be allowed to become a member of the WGA (a tactic I certainly don’t agree with, and one that gives the studios a sympathy vote they SURE don’t deserve, the greedheads!) – but nobody’s stopping nonunion writers from working on nonunion productions, and nonunion productions might be able to work out waivers with the WGA if the strike goes on for a while (in the same way nonunion productions can hire name actors who belong to the Screen Actors’ Guild – which is why Tori Spelling, Parker Posey, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Henry Rollins and James Spader are so prominent in indie features). Lindsay’s take is that more and more young people (uh – that’s everybody here other than me, since I turned 50 last winter ::sigh:: ) will start to watch more podcast and IPTV content, or Video-on-Demand if the telecos see the advantage to licensing that for their cable operations, than regular or cable network programming as a break from endless versions of SURVIVOR: NEW JERSEY or SO YOU THINK YOU CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME! 😉 Personally, I think Alex Lindsay has been sipping the New Media Kool-Aid a bit too long – but I don’t think he’s ENTIRELY wrong, either.

    This lengthy, rambling response comes courtesy of
    Tim Liebe …. and too much coffee and too few hours’ sleep!

  6. I don’t think Meeley’s conservative; he strikes me as just an unusually repugnant and un-progressive liberal.

    Anyway, I’ve known too many writers in different fields personally to believe this claptrap. I’m not really affected by the strike as I don’t watch much TV, but I hope the writers can settle things in a fair manner soon. Good on ’em for looking out for their rights.

  7. Filby: ::I don’t think Meeley’s conservative; he strikes me as just an unusually repugnant and un-progressive liberal.::

    Like Joe “Quisling” Liebermann, you mean? That’s a right-winger in pseudo-liberal clothing to me, Filby – or as Mr. Spock memorably said, “A difference that makes no difference is no difference.” But that’s just semantics in the end, and we could argue that until the heat death of the Universe…. 😀

    Thom, not only “very modest” – but also “have been on the table for nearly a decade”. One of the points made in that TWiM podcast I linked to above was that this issue was part of the 1998 WGA contract negotiation with the producers and studios, and the studios pointed out (not unreasonably at the time) that they didn’t want to tie themselves to a residuals deal before they knew if there even WAS an online market, and that both sides could settle this once they saw how things shook down. Well, things have shaken down enough over the last nine years to know there IS money and even to make an estimate as to how much, and the studios are STILL saying the same thing! If they’d have settled this in 2004, 2005 or 2006, odds are the writers wouldn’t be striking now – and the studios wouldn’t be out nearly as much as they will be once both sides settle, b/c I don’t see the writers folding on this issue now that they’ve gone on strike.

    In the meantime…. Hey, Alex Lindsay has a production guild called “Pixel Corps” he’d like to sell you…. 😉

    Tim Liebe – Tammy and I will be at Darkovercon0 outside Baltimore, MD Thanksgiving weekend 🙂

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